Zitat von Aeoline im Beitrag #9

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Das "strahlende Glöckchen", dass ich erwartet hatte, ist mehr eine "angelaufene Schelle".

VG
Aeoline

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Hi Aeoline (and ahlborn),

thanks for sharing this nice pieces of music, much appreciated. Indeed the sounds demonstrated by Gerald Brooks are very nice.

While listening I thought: even the sound of the 8-4-3-2 (Brooks) is beter here than I ever heard on a Physisorgan. Same goes for the Roth examples. May be its my fault, I'm still no professional intonateur, but also recordings on the web never heard this sound. Do you agree or am I missing something?

PS: that is not to say the Physis sound is bad. But, what already is said elsewhere if I'm right, that Physis never can be a copy of any existant organ (like Hauptwek or LiVE). It's an instument 'in itself' and 'only' intonations 'in the style of.....' can be made (please correct me if I'm wrong).

PS2: where does this two soundexamples come from? Especially the first is VERY nice in my ears, can you share the links?

Ok, I listened to the examples you posted, thank you, they helped me understand what kind of sound you are looking for.

The first thing I can say is this:

The Carillon of St. Ouen has very large pipe diameters (like Flute), to the point that it almost looks like a Cornet starting from c'. It also seems to me that the 1' rank is of a narrower diameter, and this difference between the large diameter (2 2/3; 1 3/5) and the narrow diameter (1') produces charateristic effect.
I seem to feel that the break repetition of 1' rank, in the last two octaves, is harmonized more strongly.

The Carillon I have provided can never match these characteristics, because it is programmed with full ranks narrow diameter, such as Prinzipal, and the breaks in the last octaves proceed differently.

However, I have good news, because you can build a nice Carillon IV starting from other alternative stops, simulating the harmonization of St. Ouen quite well, including the break points.
To do this, however, you need two tabs.

I did some tests compared to the demos you sent.

The best result, in my ears, is formed by two stops combined:

Cornett III 4106
Sifflet 1' 0041

the parameters to be adjusted are these:

Cornett = volume -4, attack 1, character -3, rel. detune 1
Sifflet = volume -1, attack 1, character 0, rel. detune 2, air noise 0, harm noise -2


Then you need to work in the single levels, slightly detune the Sifflet 1 to produce a realistic effect, and increase the volume in the last two octaves to simulate what happens in the st breaks. ouen. You should also turn down the volume in the first two octaves.
You can simulate the progress of these values ​​from this screenshot:



Also for the cornett III it is necessary to simulate the levels like this screen shot:



(It is not important to copy it identical, it is sufficient that the trend of the values ​​is more or less like what I did).

Yes, you have this two stops into your organ.

Hallo Aeoline, ich meinte Deine post. Die frage ist, wo finde ich die Originale aufnahmen? YouTube? CD? Oder irgendwo anderes?
Danke im voruas, PM

Zitat von PM im Beitrag #18

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Hi Aeoline (and ahlborn),

thanks for sharing this nice pieces of music, much appreciated. Indeed the sounds demonstrated by Gerald Brooks are very nice.

While listening I thought: even the sound of the 8-4-3-2 (Brooks) is beter here than I ever heard on a Physisorgan. Same goes for the Roth examples. May be its my fault, I'm still no professional intonateur, but also recordings on the web never heard this sound. Do you agree or am I missing something?

PS: that is not to say the Physis sound is bad. But, what already is said elsewhere if I'm right, that Physis never can be a copy of any existant organ (like Hauptwek or LiVE). It's an instument 'in itself' and 'only' intonations 'in the style of.....' can be made (please correct me if I'm wrong).

PS2: where does this two soundexamples come from? Especially the first is VERY nice in my ears, can you share the links?

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I had some time to further refine the combined Carillon IV.

Cornett 4106 = Volume -4; Attack 0; Character -2; Rel.detune 1;

Sifflett 0041 = Volume -1; Attack 0; Character +1; Rel.detune 3; Air. noise 0; Harm.noise -2


The pitch/volume levels of single note are those indicated in the two screens:


Cornett



Sifflet