Hallo Canticus,

ja, das ist wirklich schade! Ich habe allerdings den Eindruck, dass die Aufnahme über den Line-Out der Orgel erfolgt ist und somit eben nicht die externe Abstrahlung und darauf angepasste Intonation zu hören ist. In den Sprachaufnahmen hört man ja den Hall der Kirche, der in den Musikaufnahmen vollkommen fehlt.

Diese Präsentation wäre für mich als Interessent jedenfalls nicht besonders ansprechend.

Meiner Meinung nach setzen die Videos von Viscount UK den Standard, sowohl in Sachen Aufnahmequalität als auch inhaltlich.

Viele Grüße
Trompetendulzian

Liebe Canticus, danke für die Tipp, ich habe mich die Aufnahmen von Jonathan Holmes angehört. Da sind sehr gute dabei u.a. Franck und Languetuit. Aber Bach finde ich eher steril, es hat kein schönes Plenum (u.A. BWV 543).

Für mich ist Physis sehr gut in grundstimmen wie Streichern ind Flöten, auch Celestes usw, also Romantik klinget schon gut, auch in ff klang. Aber Barock und alter (Buxtehude usw) klinget weniger gut in ff klang. Ich glaube, die (barock) Mixture von Physis sind nicht das beste.

Ist das auch deine Erfahrung?

LG PM

I only listened to that video now. Unfortunately the audio seems to be recorded directly from the organ outputs, without correctly setting the reverb and audio panning. The audio result is disappointing, unfortunately. If they had recorded the sound with external microphones, the result would certainly have been better.

Hi ahlborn,

I thought you too did your recordings from the organ output (the headphone output) - but they are very good!

PS I bought that cable you recommended some time ago, but unfortunately it does not work for some reason, even with Audacity I did not manage to record anything with my Win10 laptop. Also, I cannot hear myself playing when trying to recording myself. Well, the sequenser function works nice….

yes, I made my recordings with the headphone output, which reduces all sounds to stereophonic panning, but I also adjusted the reverb so that the sounds melt together (wet function). The headphone output has the advantage that it automatically "summarizes" the sound to a stereophonic image, but it also has the contraindication that a little resolution is lost.
That recording seems to have been obtained with the rear outputs, but ... these outputs have not been adjusted (and mixed) for a stereo recording, rather it seems that they have been adjusted for external amplification, and subsequently used to pick up the signal for the recording. If you record in this way, the recording will be very disappointing, because the intonation parameters, panning, reverberation, which are set for external amplification, are very different from the values ​​that are set when recording. In my opinion, they should have provided for a specific regulation to be used only for recording (because they used the rear outputs), and a specific intonation for use with external amplification.

In the recording, you hear the chiff and wind noise sounds as if they were recorded in the anechoic chamber, and the reverberation halo below (in my opinion it is a reverberation added later with an audio editing program) makes listening unlikely, because the listening to anechoic chamber does not include reverberation.

About the cable you purchased: I hope I can help you, but you have to explain exactly how you connected the cables.
I'm not very familiar with Audacity, I use Cool Edit, but it shouldn't be very different..

Yes, here you can find some of my tracks (they are only small examples).
The demos are recorded with My Sonus 60, and 40 (for baroque music), except when you find "Organteq" written, in that case they are recorded with an organ simulation software, which uses physical modeling, but is very different than physis .


https://m.soundcloud.com/user4773320

You can scroll down and press "show other tracks" to view all files.

In the demos there is also indicated the custom styles that I used (Italian eclettic, North baroque, Skinner, etc.).

Zitat von ahlborn im Beitrag #8

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About the cable you purchased: I hope I can help you, but you have to explain exactly how you connected the cables.
I'm not very familiar with Audacity, I use Cool Edit, but it shouldn't be very different..

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Hallo PM,

um deine Orgel aufnehmen zu können, benötigst du eigentlich einen Stereo-Line-Eingang, also ein externes Interface, wenn dein PC keinen Line-Eingang hat. Mikrofoneingänge können in der Regel nur Mono, das heißt, du verlierst einen Kanal, und haben einen anderen Pegel als Line-Eingänge.

Zu Audacity: Hast du den korrekten Eingang ausgewählt? Du findest in der Standardansicht eine "Gerät Werkzeugleiste / Device Toolbar", in der du die Aufnahmequelle auswählen kannst und eine "Mixer Werkzeugleister / Mixer Toolbar" in der du die Quelle einpegeln kannst. Dazu kannst du auch die Funktion "Monitoring" nutzen, die durch Klicken in die Aussteuerungsanzeige "Recording Level" aktiviert wird. "Irgendetwas" sollte passieren. Du kannst auch testweise ein Loopback-Device (gibt es bei Audio Host Windows WASAPI) zur Aufnahme definieren und auf deinem PC Musik abspielen.

Viele Grüße
Trompetendulzian

Yes, the laptop's mic input is probably mono, and doesn't accept a stereo signal.
If you decided to buy the Zoom H2n, in reality, it could be an effective and plug and play solution, because you can connect the cable you purchased to the Zoom line in socket (which is definitely stereo) and record directly. In the Zoom phone jack you can connect headphones so you listen to what you are recording live.
You don't have to tinker with any audio recording software, the solution is much more practical.

1) Insert the cable (headphone organ socket to Line In Zoom)
2) adjust the organ headphones volume (usually a value around -9)
3) insert the headphones in the Zoom head socket to listen to what you play (the Zoom is capable of monitor function)
4) press Rec button... and record! All much simpler!


When you insert the line in cable into the Zoom, the built-in microphones are probably disconnected, therefore external noises are excluded!

When recording with line in, in my opinion for best results, you need to adjust the reverb to "Chapel", the Wet function activated to Low and the reverb set to +7 (above the line).
All stops have panning set to "Poly". In this way the reverberation is credible.
Most of my recordings are made this way; maybe in some I used the reverb with a value of +15.

It is absolutely necessary to set the wet function, because the sounds merge correctly. Otherwise, the sounds become "artificial".