Es ist doch die gleiche Entwicklungsgrundlage, oder? So hatte ich es bisher zumindest immer verstanden...

Hatte gedacht, dass der Brexit eher bessere Preise für Continental Europe generiert. Aber da sind wir hier weit weg davon.

Dazu wollte ich auch schonmal was schreiben. Ich hatte mir die UK Sonus 40 vs. Concerto 234 Trend einmal genauer angesehen.
Gegenüber der Concerto verfügt die Sonus standardmäßig über ein Radialpedal, Divisionals und zahlreiche zusätzliche Pistons (Hand und Fuß) - diese sind in den Produktfotos nicht vorhanden sondern nur aus dem Text im Reiter "Playing Aids" zu entnehmen. Ich kenne den Aufpreis für Divisionals nicht, aber nehmen wir für das Radialpedal einen Aufpreis von 325 € wie beim geschweiften an und für jeden zusätzlichen Piston 100 € (grob überschlagen 20 Stück = 2000 €), läge der Listenpreis für die Concerto bei 11.451 €. Die Sonus liegt bei 11700 GBP, was umgerechnet 13.286 € entspricht. Der Mehrwertsteuersatz in UK liegt bei 20% gegenüber 19% in Deutschland. Wenn man dann noch die höheren Transportkosten nach UK (längerer Weg, Kanalpassage) berücksichtigt, ist die Preisdifferenz gar nicht mehr so erschreckend groß. Für weitere Abschätzungen müsste man dann schon die Kalkulation im Detail kennen.

Edit: Noch eine kleine Ergänzung. Die Lebenshaltungskosten in UK liegen etwa 12 % über denen in Deutschland. Die Sonus ist nach obigem Rechenbeispiel ca. 15 % teurer als die Concerto (ohne Berücksichtigung der Transportkosten und mit der Unschärfe der Divisonals). Somit kommt es in etwa hin.

Viele Grüße
Trompetendulzian

Good morning.
First of all, I ask you, how are you? I hope all of you are fine, and that no one has had any health problems because of this covid19.

I certainly have an intonation for a Skinner organ for my Sonus 60, that approaches the aesthetics of the English organ. I use it with satisfaction for English music. I have to create the .txt file and I can share it with you if you like.
Probably some stops will not be present in the database. You need to have the editor to load the new stops. I will forward the missing stops to you, of course for free.

I should be able to share this style by tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

Thanks, i'm fine. Luckily I live in an area where the virus is not very present.

Yes, in reality, it is not possible to "extract" the stops from the organ's memory. But I had built this style with some stops that I asked the factory for. It is likely that some stops are already present, while others are certainly absent.
If some stops is absent, before loading a new stops, maybe this stop is present... but indirectly. It is useful to check that this stop is present in the pedal section, also with another name (the identity of the stops is indicated in the "voice ID", while the same voice ID can have different names, and this can vary depending on the configuration chosen at the time of organ purchase).

Let me explain better: in most cases, in the pedal section, there are stops that have been designed to be used on keyboards (and often these stops are actually present on keyboards in those organs designed for a specific country).
Therefore, if a stop in the keyboards is not present (example, Prinzipal 8), it is also necessary to look for it among the alternative stop of the pedal section (of the corresponding family, eg Oktavbass 8), and add on keyboard the missing voice starting from that section. The editor has the option of adding an alternative entry to that tab from another section.

It should not be thought that if the stop is present in the pedal, this has been designed only for the pedal. The stops designed only for the pedal are actually relatively few. This is because, starting from the organ pipes, the engineers have noticed that the measurements of many pedal stops are surprisingly similar to the pipes that are used in keyboards in other countries.
This can be easily verified: when a pedal stop goes to the keyboard, in general, it is possible to use this register for the whole 61 note extension. This is possible because that stop was designed for keyboards.
When a pedal stop goes to the keyboards, and this sounds only up to key #32, then it means that that stop has been designed exclusively for the pedal.

However, some few registers of the Skinner style will almost certainly need to be loaded as a new stop. In this case, let me know which ones you need, and I will send them to you.

Zitat von Gemshorn im Beitrag #33

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Auf die uralte Idee unseres Forums, in Hinkunft fertige Physisintonationen zum Kauf anzubieten (preislich angemessen, versteht sich), ist Viscount nie aufgesprungen.

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Zitat von trompetendulzian im Beitrag #37

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Ich würde mich nach wie vor freuen, wenn man fertige "Stil-Intonationen" nebst der dazugehörigen Register erwerben könnte.

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I have the .txt file but I don't know how to share it...
I have not saved the .sty and .set files because my instruments are in Italian configuration, and would be incompatible with the German instruments.
It is easier to manually search the stops in your database (refer to the "Voice ID"; the stop name may be different), and manually enter the intonation parameters.
As I wrote in the previous post, if a stop is not present, try looking for it in the pedal section. If you can't find it (especially the reeds) I will send it to you.
It will also be necessary to bring some specific stop on some tabs (e.g. replace mixture with reed, etc.)

The style is a combination of Skinner and Harrison organs. However, Harrison's pre-war aesthetic prevails, especially in very low mixtures and reeds.

This is the file!

I apologize, unfortunately I realized now that this file is an old file that I had saved before my definitive intonation. There are several changes in the final one. Now I look for the "correct" file and share it

Thank you!

Viola da Gamba