Paolo,

I've sent a link to a recording set to the correct octave...no wonder the first sounded so dark

I would suggest, if possible, "moderately" lush as the ~8 seconds of reverb of the Cavaille-Coll in Notre Dame D'Auteil makes the Preludio Festivo as registered and midi-played sound a bit crowded/blurry.

Thanks!

This is for me the first real obstacle when doing tests of this kind.
I fear it is impossible to get halfway, because it is too subjective an evaluation; for example, in my intonation I have worked out the ensemble and air supply individually for each keyboard, according to what I like to hear from a French romantic organ.
But the perception is indeed subjective (a more pronounced ensemble is simply "out of tune" for my ears), this means that it is very complex to do a test starting from "sound material" programmed by different users who have different tastes.
So, in my opinion (also considering that it is a game), the sent files correspond to the sonic ideal of who has programmed them and plays them with (more or less) satisfaction.
It costs me nothing to record files with a major ensemble, but it would be something that would not have my "artistic approval" (if it could have any value), precisely because it would be something unnatural for me (for my organ, and basically, the my environment!).
I would be of the opinion that the files should be processed as they are received by the users; unless it's a technical problem (see post above, clipping, etc.), where it certainly makes sense to request a new corrected file without distortion, but I would feel I don't have to make any "aesthetic" changes..

It's just my thoughts..

My "moderately" lush is also about 4 seconds for the reverb.

Regarding the Johannus detuning, that is not my preference.

My first post to the forum about two weeks ago was for recommendations on different ways to reduce/remove the detuning on the Celeste, but, the randomized detuning affects the entire instrument in a mostly displeasing way.

I will use Intonat to greatly reduce the detuning--it will be my first adjustment attempt so it might take a day or two. Of course, let me know if I shouldn't rush it because I've already submitted the "competition" sound file.

Because I admire AND envy the sound Ahlborn has created with his Sonus, I would suggest that he not "un-do" any of his customizations as that is one of the reasons for "adjustable" DOs. I do wish there was another LiVE 3T owner who had adjusted their instrument to their optimal satisfaction, but I guess my first efforts will have to do

Just for information sake and I will not attempt it at this time, but the 3T also has controls over the wind supply to divisions.

I think we're learning a lot about DOs with this discussion...thanks to all!!

PS I put in my "Hello" to the forum that, even after buying the 3T, I am still Physis/Sonus-curious. I wrote that mostly because of Ahlborn's efforts and results--I have no worry about the 3T loosing to the Sonus (in this round )

Paolo,

If the audio processing introduces such Hammond effects, I think processing the 3T sound file you have doesn't make sense (although having the ability to produce the Lesley sound is irresistable ).

Let me know what to reduce in the 3T so that the audio processing doesn't turn the 3T Cavaille-Coll sound into an audio clown car (no offense to the Hammond crowd--I love good gospel/rock/jazz/other Hammond organ produced music when sounding as intended because the main part of my professional musical life was in jazz).

Cheers,
Jeff

Zitat

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Fine, I was just raising a personal concern, we can stay with the existing files. There is another major issue: we decided to record from the stereo output of the organs. While for Johannus this is the only possible way, for Physis it is not, and it is definitely not the best way. I can tell, from the first tests, that operating on such a recording does not allow by far to reach the results I have with separate channels. So, we understand that when we are talking about comparing technologies, it is more than comparing modeling and sampling, all the other features of the instruments have a big importance too.

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Ein Vergleich wird immer Probleme mit sich bringen. Man muß bestimmte Aspekte eingrenzen und andere ausgrenzen. Bei der Prestige sind auch die vielen OUT-Kanäle ein deutliches Plus, um für den Livebetrieb ein ordentliches MEHR an Klang zu bekommen. Für die Testaufnahme habe ich auch die AUX verwendet. Ich kann Dir auch eine Raum-Aufnahme machen, jedoch ist da auch gleich wieder das Problem, daß die Mikrophone den lebendigen Klang wieder auf Stereo zurückbringen, auch wenn der Gesamteindruck anders als über AUX sein wird.
Ich halte Raumaufnahmen für den Vergleich aber weniger zielführend, da allein schon die Mikrophonauswahl einiges in der Qualität ausmacht und dann natürlich auch der originale Raum auf das Gesamtbild einwirkt.

Zitat von DigitalPipes im Beitrag #68

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yes and no. There is certainly a degree of subjectivity in these things but when the organ sounds like having a rotary speaker... [...]

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